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U.S. All Cap Opportunities Equity: Can you look broader but think deeper?

September 17 2024

Maximizing your opportunity set across styles and market caps is one thing. Being able to evaluate and form a view on a much broader universe is another. It requires an incredible depth of talent, experience, knowledge and insight to fully exploit the flexibility that an all-cap approach can offer.

How Justin White Developed the Four Pillars Framework

T. Rowe Price All-Cap Opportunities Fund Portfolio Manager Justin White utilized a series of mental models to clearly communicate his recommendations as an equity analyst. Those grew into the Four Pillars framework.

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So I joined T. Rowe in 2008 full time. I had been a career switcher coming out of the buy side from a consulting background, and so I really didn't know what I was doing. When I first got the role as an investor, T. Rowe took a little bit of a flier on me through the summer internship process, and so I had taken to heart Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger talk about mental models.

And so I was very systematic at the beginning of my analyst tenure to try to think about what is driving the stocks that I'm covering, what makes them go up, what makes them go down on days when they behave in ways I didn't understand. I'd go down the hallway, knock on doors of other PMS and say, Hey, you know, I don't need you to give me the answer, but just just I see this.

The market sees this. Help help me make sense of what I what my blind spots might be.

Over the course of the first two and a half years, I got a list of 30 or so mental models that I would just jot down in a Word document.

And the very first mental model I had because I joined right before Lehman failed, right?

My first mental model was the macro economy exhibits inertia. It's motion tends to persist until acted upon by an outside source like like the Fed. Right. And so in the fall of 2008, things were just getting progressively worse and it was feeding on itself. And it wasn't until the government started trying to step in that things began to stabilize.

I took these 30 mental models and realized that a lot of them had common elements, and I was able to distill them into what ultimately became the four pillars.

It was not this moment. It was more of a I want to find a way to communicate as an analyst to fund managers why I like stocks or why I don't like stocks.

And so in my notes I would go through and say I like the stock because it's a good business, because I see upside to consensus estimates, because fundamentals are improving, because the valuation makes sense over time, incorporating those types of comments into the notes.

It got more systematic and I started actually calling the framework for Pillars.

Meet All-Cap Opportunities Portfolio Manager Justin White

Justin White brings well over a decade of investing experience to leading T. Rowe Price’s All-Cap Opportunities Fund. How did he first get interested in investing? And with a broad mandate for his fund, how has he trained his worldview to help identify relevant information?

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When I was in high school, somebody—an adult asked me, “Justin, what do you want to do after high school, after college? The normal answers might be start a business, or pick your answer. My answer was, I want to be a stock analyst. I want to go out and meet companies and understand their businesses and figure out if I should invest in them. It was kind of an unusual answer, and I don’t know why that was the answer, but it was. I always had this interest and that was the North Star I was shooting for.

I became aware of stocks at a very young age, probably four or five years old, because my dad was an avid stock trader and every morning, he would take out the newspaper and look up stock prices in the back pages, and he started explaining it to me. Owning a share of stock is owning a piece of a company. He actually bought me a utility stock called, Delmarva Power, which is long since gone, and I followed it every day.

The one thing that I like to tell people that I don’t hear as often from others as I would expect, is that when you’re trying to figure out who to learn from, try to learn from the people who are the clearest communicators. This is a very complex industry, where there’s a lot of jargon, a lot of people can sound smart. They can say things that you don’t understand, your default is to think, ‘Wow, this person must be way smarter than I am.’ But over the years, I realized that the really smart people are the ones you understand, because they can take that complex idea and distill it into plain English. The reason they can distill it into plain English is because they understand the topic so well, they know what to discard and what to keep.

My job is more about pattern recognition, it’s about seeing how the world fits together and making sense of it.

There are a number of fund managers who think that the way to win is to just work harder, until you get that extra data point that somebody else doesn’t have. And then, you’ll have some edge, and you can generate excess returns. My view is different. I think that the data points that matter are kind of out there in the public domain, and the people who win are the ones who can put together those data pieces, data points, thoughtfully in a consistent mental mosaic.

I think every day, of the 99 data points that cross your board that don’t matter, there’s one or two that do, and you get better at sort of sniffing out which ones matter and when. You don’t get it right every time, but I think having lived through this, the wisdom, the accumulated knowledge puts you in a position to filter out a lot of the noise, focus more on the signal, and just get to the heart of what matters.

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